ZwiftPower - Login Please update your Zwift ID on the connection page to complete registration. MyRead more . On a flat ride I would beat every sub 60kg cat B rider too. Id be super interested in the timing you set your weight. I guess I shouldnt be surprised. Zwift is full of cheaters and thats not going to change now. Connecting to ZwiftPower Before you can start using ZwiftPower, you'll need to create an account. Zwift doesnt like this and disqualifies him on Zwift power. Have you ever compared numbers for calories burned, power output and even elevation ridden for a Zwift ride uploaded to Strava? I think one of the biggest issues with weight (and height) in Zwift is that you get punished really hard for something you only have limited control over. If thats not something that needs fixing then why run any races? Currently trying to convince a friend who is new to Zwift not to reverse weight dope. No race Chester worth their salt pops in and changed weight ahead of a race, what they do is post the wrong weight and leave it there. Good question. Living at 5,900 ft. adds a performance restriction on me, I get it. Everyone races at the same weight/height. ZwiftPower FAQ We're sure you have several questions about ZwiftPower and what it is. As a 96kg, 51 year old with an FTP of 317 and a resting HR of about 48 (and a theoretical maximum HR of 174) Im not sure why my lower HR during an event should seen as suspicious. Yes us heavier riders have the downhill advantage definitely. How doRead more . I have been frustrated with the GC results in the current Tour of Watopia series. Someone with my FTP should be CAT B, regardless of weight. Noob question though, whats the etiquette around weighing with kit on or off. Problem solved! Keep writing this sort of thing. Todd_S (Todd S) March 12, 2015, 3:09am #4 I'm new to the app. Bikecalculator suggests not Go to http://bikecalculator.com/ enter an 85kg rider, riding on the drops for 16.2kms (ie an ITT) leaving all else unchanged. w/kg is partially based on real world physics. There could be Zwift level weight bonuses instead of another pair of socks. I know a woman who is 5 feet tall and almost 200lb. Last week I jumped into my first race and it was at the last minute on a whim because I was getting tired of my training ride. Its more fun and engaging that way, for me at least. Your voice is important to us. (and dont do organized rides for fairness) so I dont have resistance changes and sometimes zwift reports extraordinary power readings for a ride. Why you can trust Cyclingnews All rights reserved. (Image credit: George Marshall / Zwift) The first thing you notice when the flag drops, is Zwift racing is so much harder than your run of the mill bike race . While the benefits of being light fully kick in while climbing a mountain (as it is easier for smaller guys to achieve certain w/kg), the benefits of being a tall and strong guy dont fully apply in the flats. Hahahahaha. I may of course be wrong, and these are all true weights, but Id be very surprised if that were the case, in the races where this matters, riders have to submit a private youtube weigh-in video <2 hrs before the race. Response to our post as well as Zwifts own post in their forum were resoundingly negative from members of the Zwift racing community. Read on for our guide on how the app works, how to get set up, and how to analyse your racing. Context, Tim, context! With my question answered as to what I should pick for my next race, Id delete my original post if I could, but I cannot figure out how. On one occasion I entered a flat race (Laguardia Loop) following my ZP category (class C), finished almost three minutes down (though since it was a small field I still got third place), and then was disqualified for averaging 3.6 w/kg and 206 watts. Why can we just all race together and the fastest person wins? In fact, the only riders at or below my w/kg were minutes off the back. I currently weigh 59kgs but my BMI is 25 which technically overweight. I have no idea. If you gave the power, it will come out. See how you can support Zwift Insider! I may try it just to see what difference it makes. Secondly, Zwifts statement says they agree there is a need for tools that deliver greater transparency to Zwift racing. Thats good to see, and we completely agree! It's a bit more complicated than most website sign-ups, but now you'll be all ready to get started. I think theres another more interesting angle than just trying to stay down a category. It all has to do with the way Zwift's racing categories work. That gives me more hope for the future of the platform than any announcement from Zwift ever could. 0.5kg discrepancy either side is actually quite small. Im using a quarq crank power meter on my rock and roll while I save up for direct drive. My weight is showing orange everytime. Yes, we need to be categorized by our race ranking, not power. Keep answering that question and youll keep most people on side. I am always passed by everyone on the way up but can usually catch up on the way down (190cm/93kg). We mentioned categories earlier as one of the ways in which you can search through your results and statistics, but they're also a method by which you get sorted into races. This afternoon, Zwift posted a follow-up message on the forum. This calculates that this heavy rider would take 23:14 to do the distance a justRead more , Everyone has a sweet spot for weight. Its funny, I was talking to one of my work colleagues who also Zwifts about AdZ and how because Im heavier (125kg / 276lbs) I would never be a sub 60m AdZ rider (I reckon Im looking at sub 2 hours, if lucky), Ive never once considered weight doping, sure I know I could but why would I? I havent even used my road bike outdoors since 2012. So its not that easy for light people to hide in the pack and benefit from the draft in Zwift, which is half the reality (in many ways its easier IRL). But it highlights a bigger problem, and that is the fundamental flaw of using watts per kilo for race categorization. I use Zwift to get in shape and prepare for outside riding. Yes, but hopefully the system would be designed so, if drop a category then begin doing well, you get upgraded again! What anyone wants in any game or competition is to feel its fair, and as they look to make changes going forward, I hope people at Zwift always keep asking themselves this question: How can Zwifters see these races are fair?. Zwift should take accountability for what matters most to start with and thats the cheaters. Hitting G on your keyboard will do it, or swipe up on iPhone or iPad, etc then tap the graph button. Since strava is all that matters of course. Similar to the announcement of the European Super League in soccer, Zwift failed to read the room. You enter a real race,out in the world, you are ready to finish in the top 20 for your best result of your life,then out of the blue a dirt bike rides past you goes tabletop and crossesRead more . Great drafting skills!, Heres the thing: I probably am a fairly efficient racer, when I want to be. If other people want to obsess about my weight thats up to them but I wont. You could attend races where all categories go together (same start, all riders visible) for a while if you find that to be more fun See how you can support Zwift Insider! And besides, my main goal on Zwift is to not get dropped in the hills during Team Cryo-Gens more hardcore Saturday rides! Withings scale that automatically updates your Zwift weight, a month ago in the final post of my race category series, https://smartscalesync.com/?utm_source=tr, https://zwiftpower.com/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=5528, https://zwiftinsider.com/how-does-zwift-calculate-my-speed/, Zwift x UCI To Host Cycling Events for the Olympic Esports Series 2023, Race London ZRacing March Series Details, Notable Zwift Events for the Weekend of March 4-5. I have long ago earned all of the challenges and levels. With Zwift control is difficult (in getting Zwifters to enter their accurate) wait. for example,Read more . In real life, Id dust that guy. I did on one and second on the other. Stick a few more kgs on to stop you getting upgraded, would that get you a ban? The other race, events, and activities are needed to display that data. How does it work? Note how he wins races while his max HR is around 30 beats below his maximum. My 3 race FTP is at 4.07w/kg (248w @ 61kg), but Im still in Cat B. And one cheater leads to another and its an arms race of gaming the game. Makes me happy to see that the community is able to speak with one voice if necessary. However, I was able to navigate to the settings page by doing the following. Actually no, sorry, I was wrong. Zwift lets you adjust the difficulty of your workout, before or even during your ride. (better than any bike upgrade i could afford) Yes its great to win,but as long as you improve yourself who cares what anyone else does.You will always get cheaters,dodgy equipment and so on so just enjoyRead more . I climbed the Alpe last night for Stage 3 of the Tour of Watopia, missing my target of going under an hour by just over 12 seconds (Aargh!!). I wouldnt personally do it since it throws off training metrics and just isnt true. The categories currently used in most Zwift events are based on your FTP watts per kilo- that is, your FTP in watts, divided by your weight in kilograms. Ive done multiple races where my main goal was to keep the watts as low as possible while hanging with the front group. I should mention: many Zwifters have lied about their in-game weight for perfectly acceptable reasons. This is how racing is supposed to work. They are not, and never were, skill classes of any kind (ie. It is obviously a stupid thing ( weight doping) and why a rider would do this is beyond me but pride and quasi Strava bragging or Zwift Power bragging is a thing. Now head back to ZwiftPower, click 'Connect' at the top of the page, then enter your Zwift ID in the box when prompted. On Zwift I look suspicous. Why try to force IRL parameters that can not be enforced. Please refresh the page and try again. You'll receive a four-digit code, which you'll then have to add to your. Zwift doesn't need a fancy code fix, they don't need special anti-cheat software, special post race investigations, and they don't need to change anything other than when the game updates personal attributes. We check over 250 million products every day for the best prices. What is that!?! This would include preventing people from entering the wrong (too low) category, and multiple month suspensions (race events would not appear in that persons Zwift application event list, no ability to enter) for using a height or weight that cannot be verified, or miscalibration of a smart trainer. Im sure it happens, but I would guess its pretty rare certainly less of a problem than normal weight doping. High intensity: 30/30 and 40/20sec Rnnestad intervals like 3x (10x40/20sec). Then lets stop with all athletic competition! Many riders is talking about cheating, when someone enters a lower category but it's not, in my opinion. As a 59/60kg rider who always seems to have a higher w/kg than the people I finish around, Ive been curious about adding 50% to both my weight and http://ftp. Then everyone would know who is legit or at least somewhat legit. You lose 10 liters of sweat during a medium long ride? Zwift Insider is independent of Zwift corporate (www.zwift.com), although Zwift does provide funding to help defray site costs. LOL. If so, that makes sense to me and I can absolutely see the point of that. Blaming Zwift for eating disorders is not sensible. Dont worry about your weight fluctuating through the week and remember you gain 0.5kg by drinking a half-litre bidon and lose it again through sweat (and by going to the toilet). 5x5min, 4x8min but definitely never longer than 8 minutes. would that be cheating then ? Honest mistake on my part and one I wont make again, so fair enough to be filtered outRead more , Related (and apologies if the answer is obvious but Ive only done one Zwift race), really what is the point of the categories? What stone have you been living under? Bath Certainly it impacts the accuracy of race performance and results. Then weigh yourself, and open Zwift, and see if it reflects the change. As long as people are using reasonable weight/height and arent cheating or changing it drastically all the time (my scales autoupdate my weight, so mine changes once a day, but by small increments), Im much more interested in being able to see the weight of my teammates so I can properly plan my TTT lineup than I am the weight of my competitors. SoggyAlbatross2. Is a very strong rider for his age and trains hard. I dont mind the low HRs but the low power and high w/kg really irk me! It's harder than real racing. What if you are super committed and gain the weight in real life just so you can stay in the category , Excellent posts on perhaps the most serious non-hardware problem in Zwift right now. Racing on the Zwift virtual platform has only increased, with the professionals getting in on the act, too, via the Zwift Tour for All, the Virtual Tour of the Gila, and e-races organised by Team Ineos. When I go outdoors I go on a trail bike and bring a backpack full of food and drink for a several hours ride. USA Cycling has categories that are based on experience and performance. However, insecure Freds jumpingRead more , I am new to Zwift, but I do wonder how it is youll see a bunch of people finish at the front of a D race at 4-5 W/kg. bottom line for me, its a virtual training world, a virtual hammer isnt the same as a real hammer. Sure, easy! Well, its adding weight to gain an advantage. But I also did it because I knew it was great practice! plain and simple. If youre a 300-pound dude who wants to go a little faster uphill as a virtual 200 pounder, have at it. Heres an idea: Take weigh out of the equation. Garmin sets your zones based on your maximum heart rate, while Zwift defines it as 76 to 90 percent of your Functional Threshold Power (FTP), which is the highest power you can sustain for 20 . We like this move from Zwift. If you're on Zwift and planning to get racing, then signing up to the third-party app ZwiftPower (opens in new tab) is an essential step. Thats the graph. Mike, Great article as ever Eric. Some weight dopers are obvious and blatant other times its much less egregious. (a is tough and im struggling at max h/r for most of the race).Ive gone from 87kgs to 80 kgs in this time and feel fitter than ever. I disagree with you on this point. I still have no sprint kick so Im never winning anything anyway. 5 year age categories and incredibly competitive a in most age groups, Thanks so much for your helpful comment. Everything you need to know about the third-party Zwift results and analysis website. If I wanted to win I just drop my weight to 65kgs 350w/65kgs is a lot better than 350w/85kgs, of course 350w/65kg is better than 350w/85kg, its a massive increase in w/kg. Future state can add a nominal cost to said license to support clean racing via Zwift tech updates. Finally, just head back to ZwiftPower and click 'Connect to my Account'. 1 - Manually Set Your FTP Let's say you already know your FTP, then you can go into Zwift and manually change it to whatever you'd like. But then you could have someone in the same age group who maxes out at 170. ZwiftPower use 95% of your best 20 minutes during the whole race, so it does not matter if the race is 21 min or 3 hours, you will still be categorized the same way. Sandbagging is pointless if winning means youre going to move up (unless you want to take 3 months off after your win. Why we are treating this differently from actual racing? But without any hard and fast rules, we cant say anything is illegalat least for certain races. However, I definitely recommend entering some races. Youd think theyd be the same but when Zwift and Strava dont even agree on stats for the same ride, Ill take any other comparisons with a big pinch of salt. Lucky forRead more . .Personally I one of the outliers on height and weight. We remain committed to protecting the health and well being of the broader Zwift Community, and we look forward to enacting additional measures in the future. Exactly, although As arent that regulated, unless you hit the premier class, which is a very small section of A riders. As others have said, your higher weight helps on flat courses. His favourite races are Strade Bianche and the Volta a Portugal, and he rides a Colnago C40. Thats not what I recall at all, everything is a race, even if you werent aware . My performance IRL then probably looks pale compared to when Im racing in Zwift, I use the same power meter on Zwift as I do outdoors and I only push it outdoors during FTP tests and during closed road events (i.e. otherwise no way in hell hes beating you. I do ZHR Masters on a Tuesday night. The bottom line is that in any competition there will always be someone who wants to cheat to win.Read more . I have wondered about this subject on a few occasions. That's pretty straightforward the usual email, username, password, terms and conditions so you won't have any trouble with this step. And atRead more . I put my real weight 95% of the time. And flags height and weight changes if they go up or down alot. 2. England and Wales company registration number 2008885. Take one of our four FTP tests to determine your FTP. The only place where being heavy helps is on the decent, which are almost all short (except Ventoux and Alpe de Zwift), and as a heavy guy (85kgs) I need to recover on the decent. angels stadium covid rules. Or theyll ride races 1-2 categories below their actual W/kg so they can still win and feel like that theyre legends. My guess is that another reason some do it, is because it gives you points on zwiftpower, becauseRead more . Ive been on a mission to get back to my racing weight in 2020. Hes asking for a fair race. It this fair? Thats why there are no top 40 Cat C riders in 70-75Kg range. As far as my weight goes the only thing I care about is being as accurate as I can to get accurate results. First up, you'll have to head to Zwift.com and log in, then click on Settings > Profile > Connections and choose 'opt-in' under the ZwiftPower logo. I hope they learn from this and are more careful with things like that in the future. Ugh! Or are you looking for a participation trophy on every race as well? Good heavens man, the sentence before You do you says If its not done during a competitive Zwift event, I dont see it as a problem. Obviously weight doping in races is cheating and not acceptable. Daniel Ostanek is production editor at Cyclingnews, having joined in 2017 as a freelance contributor and later being hired as staff writer. My best race results as a Zwift B are on flatter routes, and I find my watts per kilo are consistently lower than most of the riders around me. With racer categories? Find out more about how we test. 2 Likes _Jynxy_EVO (:)) October 1, 2021, 1:41pm #8 thxs mike, Zwift power usually looks at numbers vs the category race he entered. I am alleging that weight cheating is endemic in zwift, especially among those who care about winning. But the vast majority do not. Thanks! A good rule we follow is to take our FTP divide it by 3 and then put that in as our weight (in Kilograms). BA1 1UA. 1. Adjusting Difficulty Before Your Workout. I am about to hit the four year mark on Zwift. Put simply, ZwiftPower is a community-driven website that complements the Zwift app. I rode outside last night, and Im sure I will again soon. In the future, well continue to bring potential product ideas and changes to members of the Zwift Racing Community, with the hope that youll embrace this as a collaborative effort to help shape the experience. I dont think it can all be attributed to weight; it appears that some hardware tweaks can scale up the reported power output. Leave the setting unchanged and climbs often feel challenging. I currently use the Garmin Smart Scale so I may invest in the Withings scale. But youre training and racing and getting stronger, and eventually your FTP improves to 260 watts, which is 3.25 w/kg. The license would be needed to participate in ranked races, however if you dont have a license, other races would be available to participate in. Do you believe weight doping (reverse or otherwise) is a big problem in Zwift racing, and if so, what can be done about it? Zwift Insider is independent of Zwift corporate (www.zwift.com), although Zwift does provide funding to help defray site costs. We would like to thank the community for your passion and feedback. Gain a few (virtual) pounds.